In this podcast, Jonathan speaks to Julia who is a fellow coach exploring the world of generative leadership.  Together they look into the topic of making sense of the responsibility of leadership, why understanding how the mind works provides organisations with a competitive edge.  They question whether senior leaders are in fact sociopaths and psychopaths and if following a sports team is good for our health! Julia had a varied career before working with leaders to help them understand how the mind works and how this reflects on the way they do business.  She works with business leaders to help create organisations which are in harmony with the world around them through sustainability, responsibility and purpose, true purpose-led businesses.